Thank you - your comments on ‘I am’ interest me greatly. In St John’s gospel there are 7 I am statements from Christ eg ‘I am the light of the world’. One translator says that there is an emphasis in the original Greek which is not in the English translation. She translates them with this beginning, ‘I, I AM,….’ Therefore the above statement becomes, ‘I, I AM, the light of the world’ which makes so much sense in relation to Rupert’s insight.
This helped me a great deal. Thank you. I have often been unclear as to the difference between meditation on the subject and non-meditation. I see that my practice- Centering Prayer- is the latter. I wasn’t sure until I read this piece if it was the subject meditation. I don’t think it is. Though it contains hints of Bhakti- it’s really non-meditation.
“In simply being, there is no subject and no object. No path is travelled from the apparent self to the true self. One simply stands as what one is. This is why it is called the Pathless Path.”
I read these words, and my body/mind says, “oh, okay, I get it”, when of course it has NO WAY of getting it. Body/mind is only subject/object. I’m almost (almost…but never) inclined to stop reading and seeking…just be.
Oh yes…I saw this recently: I’ve turned something that is not a thing…into a thing, and object. It’s just what the body/mind does because it cannot comprehend it any other way, which is one way of saying more definitively - it can’t comprehend.
Yes and no 😉 Yes, if we believe we are our “thoughts” because they cannot comprehend nothingness. No, if we don’t identify ourselves as our thoughts - we see them just as another appearances of things - then they have no power to deter.
The thought are ours, they appear random, but they are the wrappers of our experiences. One can choose not to identify with them. It is like someone brings a dog home and when it's barking annoys him; he does not want to identify with it.
Interesting metaphor - dog barking and not identifying with it. I respectfully disagree about the thoughts as ours. There are thoughts appearing, yes. Within a body/mind, yes. The problem comes down to ‘ownership’ perhaps.
Thank you - your comments on ‘I am’ interest me greatly. In St John’s gospel there are 7 I am statements from Christ eg ‘I am the light of the world’. One translator says that there is an emphasis in the original Greek which is not in the English translation. She translates them with this beginning, ‘I, I AM,….’ Therefore the above statement becomes, ‘I, I AM, the light of the world’ which makes so much sense in relation to Rupert’s insight.
Cognitively it makes sense. Is there a practical way to achieve it.
This helped me a great deal. Thank you. I have often been unclear as to the difference between meditation on the subject and non-meditation. I see that my practice- Centering Prayer- is the latter. I wasn’t sure until I read this piece if it was the subject meditation. I don’t think it is. Though it contains hints of Bhakti- it’s really non-meditation.
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“In simply being, there is no subject and no object. No path is travelled from the apparent self to the true self. One simply stands as what one is. This is why it is called the Pathless Path.”
I read these words, and my body/mind says, “oh, okay, I get it”, when of course it has NO WAY of getting it. Body/mind is only subject/object. I’m almost (almost…but never) inclined to stop reading and seeking…just be.
Doesn't it makes nothing as an object?
Oh yes…I saw this recently: I’ve turned something that is not a thing…into a thing, and object. It’s just what the body/mind does because it cannot comprehend it any other way, which is one way of saying more definitively - it can’t comprehend.
Do you think that cognitive comprehension is a problem in the way of achieving nothingness?
Yes and no 😉 Yes, if we believe we are our “thoughts” because they cannot comprehend nothingness. No, if we don’t identify ourselves as our thoughts - we see them just as another appearances of things - then they have no power to deter.
The thought are ours, they appear random, but they are the wrappers of our experiences. One can choose not to identify with them. It is like someone brings a dog home and when it's barking annoys him; he does not want to identify with it.
Interesting metaphor - dog barking and not identifying with it. I respectfully disagree about the thoughts as ours. There are thoughts appearing, yes. Within a body/mind, yes. The problem comes down to ‘ownership’ perhaps.